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7/12/2026 8:20 am  #1


Everything Hurts

Long time! This topic made me tune in as I am dealing with so many challenges right now! After a lifetime of serious tripping I wonder if I will ever see my favourite lakes again...

I am scheduled for my second hip replacement September 28. I also have osteoarthritis in my back and will be seeing a back specialist in early August. Pain from both of these issues cause my knees to hurt. It's really hard not to get depressed. 

I have a canoe/camping trip into Brain Lake last week of July. I want to find the old growth areas between Brain and Stretch. I also have two backpacking trips planned. Highlands last week August and part of the Western Uplands from Rain Lake last week of September. I come out two days before my surgery.

How will I cope??? I keep asking myself that question.

I still weight train with moderations to my work out and I still hike daily. I think staying as strong as possible is important as we age, no matter the challenges.
Voltarin and ibuprofen
Walking Poles have been an amazing addition taking weight off my joints and helping with balance under load
Really good boots and socks
Ultra light everything… 
The best sleeping pad ever

The biggest strategy when heading out right now is not pushing on too far. Just get out there. I plan 1/2 day travels and build in a rest day between travel days. My hip and back really need this so I can continue.

I’ve been planning this summer since February... I can hardly wait and I am trying not to be too worried.

If anyone has any suggestions or other strategies I would love to hear from you!

 

7/12/2026 10:32 am  #2


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Sorry to hear from that Tess. I can empathize with your pain. My hips and knees are starting to fail. Besides strength training (which I need to start doing) and staying active, my answer is ultralight everything. This is especially true for backpacking or trips with a number of portages.

It seems you are on that path but when you mention really good boots and the best sleeping pad ever, I know you are making compromises. I get that too. The other compromise I bet you are making, is you bring dogs. Dogs bring along a lot of extra weight with them. Some things are necessary even with the extra weight.

Everyone I trip with knows I go very light. And I see others try to do it too, but stop with one or two major ultralight pieces of equipment. A canoe or a backpack. Or they pause at the price and feels it's not worth it. If it keeps you out there for a few more years, it's worth the price.

Look at everything! Your bear hang only needs to 2.5 mm rope (Dyneema). You don't need 5 roll top dry bags to compartmentalize your stuff. Put all your dry clothes, sleeping bag, air mattress in a big ultra Sil rolltop bag. You don't need a toiletries bag a zip lock will do, you don't need a filter, use tablets instead. Most people's cook kits are 2 to 3 times bigger than needed. Like wool socks? Use thin lightweight hiking socks. In fact every single piece of clothing you bring can be a third or half the weight if you take the time to layer better or think critically about it.

My biggest advice is to look at everything you bring, make as much as possible do double duty, cut things out, and cut absolutely every last thing down in size. You will be amazed at the difference it makes.

If none of this really works for you, trip with someone younger and get them to carry the big stuff!

 

7/12/2026 11:18 am  #3


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Hi Martin! Lots of good advice!

When I am backpacking the boots and smartwool hiking socks are not a compromise as I never take them off (except at night)! Canoe trips are a different animal of course, so if there are lots of difficult portages I will take lightweight hiking boots. You don’t? What do you wear on portages?

My air mat is a Thermarest Neoair, weighing in at 710 grams. I bought it because my ultra light air mat could not support my back and hip, at all. So that is one of those necessary compromises.

Another compromise I made was a tent. On my first backpacking trip I used a 800 gram Bivy tent. Nice to carry, very difficult to sleep in. You cannot dress in it! So I went back to my 2 kg tent. I am sure if I could scrape together the money I could buy a much lighter backpacking tent that I can sit up in. 

What is really interesting after a life time of canoe trips was the new experience of backpacking. In terms of packing the two are unrelated!! I have an excellent Osprey pack and everything I need for a week has to fit in it. I learned Not to tie stuff to the outside. I am still figuring things out.

And yep, on the really long canoe trips I sometimes had a whole blue barrel devoted to dog food. Backpacking I do not take a dog. Canoe tripping I take two. 

I never thought of tablets rather than my filter. I am going to try them when I hike the Highlands.

But yes, your points are well taken. The money is absolutely worth it if it gives you a couple of extra years. I am now looking at ultra light tents I can sit up in. Very expensive for sure…. Do you have any suggestions? I think this is a necessary purchase.

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7/13/2026 7:23 am  #4


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Tess, I broke my back a while back and another option is to find a pain specialist. I have a weekly regimen if anesthetic injections that numb the nerves enough to allow the inflammation to subside, and to prevent overstimulation, and quarterly or bi-annual epidurals with a long - acting steroid, but I'm a worse case scenario with several crushed and severed nerves, 
Many people (especially athletes) only get the injections as required or before a big event to prevent the overstimulation and inflammation in the first place.
there are also a ton of other therapies available from TENS to acupuncture, to various types and strengths of medication, but you need a proper workup form a specialist to classify the type and intensity of your injuries, and what the causes and cures are...

 

7/13/2026 10:22 am  #5


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Wow scoutergriz, I am sorry to hear about your back. That is awful. I can only imagine the pain. My back pain from the osteoarthritis can be debilitating… a broken back is so much worse. 

Does your weekly regime of injections and pain management strategies allow you to get out into the backcountry?

I will be seeing a back specialist at Markham Stouffville Hospital. I was going to ask about a steroid shot before my first backpacking trip. I also went to physio therapy for both my back and hip. The exercises help tremendously. 

Surprisingly, the other thing that has helped with my pain is diet. I reduced sodium, sugar and saturated fats, took out all ultra processed products and I eat a ton of anti-inflammatory foods. My pain level went from an 7 or 8 to a 2 or 3 within a week. My body tells me when I slip up.

I think the Surgeon I see in Markham will diagnose my issues and hopefully give me some hope moving forward. I had hip surgery in 2023 for my left hip. A tremendous improvement. So I look forward to getting my right hip fixed in September.

I refuse to give up. I love camping, canoeing and hiking. It is deeply ingrained in my identity. I am only 66 ... I hope to adjust my expectations and keep on keeping on till I am really really old. First I got to fix my parts problems.

I would love to hear how others are coping with these ageing issues yet still getting out into the interior. It can be a lonely trek and very difficult to talk about because of all the stigma and embarrassment around getting old and decrepit.

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Yesterday 5:29 am  #6


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I'm doing alright considering, I do a lot more base-camping and car tripping now because I've got some pretty serious weight restrictions, for instance I'm allowed over 40lbs "rarely" which mean once or twice daily, and "never" over 60lbs (which means avoid if possible). My biggest issue is with twisting which can put me flat on my back if I'm not careful, so I really have to be careful with my torso rotation.
the shots make all the difference in the world- about 90% of my pain is caused by severed nerves sending false signals. the long term anesthetic calms those nerves, which in turn helps my functionality and lowers inflammation, while the cortisone shots provide long term relief from swelling and inflammation around my spinal cord. without the injections and medications, walking 50' was virtually impossible. with them I've been able to hike 5k with a day pack..
My instructing days are over, but at least I still get out a few times a year, the biggest change is time, everything takes double or more, even putting in is far longer- I used to grab my pack and canoe and march them down to the water, then go back for the loose stuff (pfd's, fishing rod, ditch kit, paddles, etc. and lock up and go. Now each major item is a separate trip, and using a cane means I only have one empty hand available for loose stuff...
yeah. salt is a big no-no, as are many processed foods which can be high in sugars, salt and fats- just remember that you DO need some of each to stay hydrated and for energy, but it's a balancing act
I'm hoping that you've just got the normal age related issues and wear and tear problems. They can be at least partially remedied with the proper medications and some therapy work. It might be worthwhile to try for a few sessions with a Kinesiologist to learn your strengths and weaknesses and develop a plan to get the best life you can. Mine literally taught me how to walk again after my accident...
good luck and I'll keep my fingers crossed for you...

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Yesterday 5:49 pm  #7


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Good ultra light equipment can be very expensive. For about 15 years I used a TarpTent Moment DW as my go-to tent for paddling and backpacking. Its not the lightest but it's also not the most expensive. I still love that tent and highly recommend it for its ease of setup and simplicity.

A few days ago this crossed my feed. Excellent video on packing https://youtu.be/DbKR5sTPFfE?si=4aXYU47cqWbJ8ch3

 

Today 6:27 am  #8


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Martin,

I have been obsessively looking at TarpTents for the past week! The one you have is no longer made but an upgrade becomes available end of July. Very cool tents! The tent I really really like is out of reach. But the single Rainbow is appealing and affordable. 916 grams all in and free standing. 

My big worry is buying from the States. I can find no one in Canada who stocks them. I worry about the import/custom fees etc. I need to do some more research. 

Thanks for the link too!
 

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Today 6:39 am  #9


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Scoutergriz, It is beyond excellent that you can still get out there, max out your limitations while staying safe. You are an inspiration for sure. Who cares how long it takes to load the canoe or set up camp. I also feel that way about portages now… and how much I can carry. And I honour rest days instead of thinking of them as a waste of time. Base camping is awesome… and there are so many places you can drive right to the put in… Last October I went into Billy Lake just because I could and I loved being there. It was pretty, the water is lovely and we were the only ones on the lake. Not quite the wilderness but still very nice. This July into Brain Lake to base camp and explore. 

I will look up Kinesiologist in my area. I do go to physio… maybe they can point me in the right direction.

Thanks for everything … I hope you have a great summer.

 

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Today 6:49 am  #10


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ShawnD might be able to chime in here, as he's bought from Terptent before.  If I recall correctly, he mentioned that with shipping, import fees, and the conversion back then, it turned a $600 USD tent into a 1000-1200 CAD tent.  If you're going to be using for multiple trips for a decade though, might be worth a try.

I really enjoyed using their Hogback tent, which is easily the lightest 4-person tent I can find on the market.  I've linked my review there, just to give an opinion regarding what that company's design philosophy is all about.  Big Agnes is a close second with the Copper Spur UL lines, but also expensive and a bit heavier with the freestanding gear.

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Today 9:30 am  #11


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I've had a Tarptent Moment, Scarp and Stratospire. For me the stand out is the Moment. All of them were bought used through people on AA, Reddit or Facebook Marketplace. Even a new the Moment DW was something like $300 last time I looked.

If you were in the market for much more expensive Dyneema Tents, I wouldn't look at Tarptent. I would look at Durston. There are no duties on Durston tents. They are cheaper and some might argue better than Tarptent. Plus it's a Canadian company.

EDIT: Just noticed Ian's tent review above. Excellent Job Ian! A Moment DW is like a mini Hogback. I do a crappy job reviewing gear but in this video you see a trip where the Moment was really put through it's paces: https://youtu.be/laxo0RTOPuc?si=nMcDGk_afJLQrEYz 

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Today 11:23 am  #12


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Crawling in and out of a tent and sleeping on the ground are things I won't do any longer. Having transitioned to a Warbonnet Ridgerunner about 10 years ago has been a great move. Hammock,  underquilt and tarp are between 3 & 4 lbs depending on the rating. No sleeping pad required. No rocks or uneven surfaces to manage. No hands and old knees to crawl on. Not to mention a better rest, for me.

 

Today 1:25 pm  #13


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IanTendy wrote:

ShawnD might be able to chime in here, as he's bought from Terptent before.  If I recall correctly, he mentioned that with shipping, import fees, and the conversion back then, it turned a $600 USD tent into a 1000-1200 CAD tent.  If you're going to be using for multiple trips for a decade though, might be worth a try.

I really enjoyed using their Hogback tent, which is easily the lightest 4-person tent I can find on the market.  I've linked my review there, just to give an opinion regarding what that company's design philosophy is all about.  Big Agnes is a close second with the Copper Spur UL lines, but also expensive and a bit heavier with the freestanding gear.

Thanks for the info on import fees. That is about what I expected. Also, the review is so interesting. Great stuff.

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Today 1:33 pm  #14


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MartinG wrote:

I've had a Tarptent Moment, Scarp and Stratospire. For me the stand out is the Moment. All of them were bought used through people on AA, Reddit or Facebook Marketplace. Even a new the Moment DW was something like $300 last time I looked.

If you were in the market for much more expensive Dyneema Tents, I wouldn't look at Tarptent. I would look at Durston. There are no duties on Durston tents. They are cheaper and some might argue better than Tarptent. Plus it's a Canadian company.
 

Wow Martin, those are terrific tents. 

I have been searching all the possible used tent forums, marketplaces, kijiji, etc.  Did you see a used Moment DW recently? I actually joined a TarpTent facebook page today. lol

There is an MEC Spark 1 for a good price in Innisfil but after looking into it I think it is too cramped. 

My daughter-in-law used to live in Durston and she just sent me the link today. I like them. 

Quite a rabbit hole I’ve gone down!

 

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Today 1:36 pm  #15


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FredForest wrote:

Crawling in and out of a tent and sleeping on the ground are things I won't do any longer. Having transitioned to a Warbonnet Ridgerunner about 10 years ago has been a great move. Hammock, underquilt and tarp are between 3 & 4 lbs depending on the rating. No sleeping pad required. No rocks or uneven surfaces to manage. No hands and old knees to crawl on. Not to mention a better rest, for me.

My daughter-in-law uses a hammock set up. I did try sleeping in it but it wasn’t good for my back or my hip. Maybe when I am fixed up I will try again.  They do tick a lot of boxes.

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