the infrastructure is already in place along the algonquin highway corridor,, it is called car camping,, permitted sites are available for people with " some degree of physical limitations"  although that is open for interpretation.  safety is a over riding priority ,,, do you not agree?
   jon,,, you thought that the p.c.i. inventory was a great tool for people to help recognize a suitable campsite,, perhaps we need a portage scouting reports as well , we gotta know what is over that next hill?  
   
    
    

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swedish pimple wrote:

        the infrastructure is already in place along the algonquin highway corridor,, it is called car camping,, permitted sites are available for people with " some degree of physical limitations"  although that is open for interpretation.  safety is a over riding priority ,,, do you not agree?
   jon,,, you thought that the p.c.i. inventory was a great tool for people to help recognize a suitable campsite,, perhaps we need a portage scouting reports as well , we gotta know what is over that next hill?  
   
    
    

 
Hey Einstein, what does the P in PCI stand for? Wait for it............ahhhhhh, there you go lol

Shocked at the entitled here who don't appreciate that those with physical disabilities and children should be reasonably accommodated even if it means you lose a bit of your FLEXIBILITY and entitlement to camp wherever the hell you'd like, booked or not...upstanding citizens all lol...change is a coming my troglodyte friends and you're not going to like it thanks for your input into the process though....Barry and those here that showed some balance and understanding of our challenges, we will follow up with you separately....ciao

Last edited by goneagainjon (2/25/2022 9:07 pm)

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hiker72 wrote:

https://medium.com/the-mission/5-tactics-used-by-passive-aggressive-arguers-and-the-best-forms-of-defense-42a9348b60ed

 
Lol

goneagainjon wrote:

hiker72 wrote:

https://medium.com/the-mission/5-tactics-used-by-passive-aggressive-arguers-and-the-best-forms-of-defense-42a9348b60ed

 
Love it and couldn't agree more! But there is no family here for them to entertain... so who are they trying to impress? Who are they who attack those of us that require accomodations and mock Barry's PCI initiative? Simply put?  Each other of course..the good 'ole boys here who think they own the park..we all know who these angry old dinosaurs are...s%e&e, u€€a, and others...and they love playing to one another and ganging up on any opinions that threaten them, their sense of entitlement and the status quo...we've all seen them shout down others with whom they disagree - those that advocate for growth and progress and inclusion....think they're outdated views re access will withstand this court challenge? Lmao, ok

 
Nailed it.

Jdbonney wrote:

goneagainjon wrote:

hiker72 wrote:

https://medium.com/the-mission/5-tactics-used-by-passive-aggressive-arguers-and-the-best-forms-of-defense-42a9348b60ed

 
Love it and couldn't agree more! But there is no family here for them to entertain... so who are they trying to impress? Who are they who attack those of us that require accomodations and mock Barry's PCI initiative? Simply put?  Each other of course..the good 'ole boys here who think they own the park..we all know who these angry old dinosaurs are...s%e&e, u€€a, and others...and they love playing to one another and ganging up on any opinions that threaten them, their sense of entitlement and the status quo...we've all seen them shout down others with whom they disagree - those that advocate for growth and progress and inclusion....think they're outdated views re access will withstand this court challenge? Lmao, ok

 
Nailed it.

Thank you my friend...I've never met Barry but  but my sense he is a good and pragmatic man who truly cares about the park and issues like fair and reasonable access...he has also no doubt had lots of interactions with Uppa and swedish pimple...i highly doubt he's unaware that many of us know what hotheads they are and how they love to bully us and shout diwn we newer members who don't support their views...they run roughshod over the chats here...not sure why they feel so angry and threatened tbh

Polarization of positions and misrepresentation of opinions unfortunately creeps into many discussions these days. The creation of the PCI was a personal effort originally involving feedback from just one other. I had been feeling the increased effects of arthritis as a 'limiting factor' and was starting to look for 'accommodating' campsites and insight about various portages. Since many of us will have children and we all 'get old' eventually, as a 73 year old, I consider it a useful resource. 

Can we please refocus on my original comments .. "If the previously mentioned new park backcountry campsite inventory is intended to identify 'better campsites', and the lakes where they are located .. then maybe management is hoping to establish 'primary campsites' suitable for larger groups .. with better accessibility, numerous tent pads, levelness, etc. .. suitable for multi-generational families and with site-specific reservations. I could see this resulting in two-tier campsite standards, different fee structure, different map symbols, and a two-tiered reservation system? Any insight or opinions?"

swedish pimple wrote:

        the infrastructure is already in place along the algonquin highway corridor,, it is called car camping,, permitted sites are available for people with " some degree of physical limitations"  although that is open for interpretation.  safety is a over riding priority ,,, do you not agree?
   jon,,, you thought that the p.c.i. inventory was a great tool for people to help recognize a suitable campsite,, perhaps we need a portage scouting reports as well , we gotta know what is over that next hill?  
   
    
    

Seriously???
you've met me many years ago and KNOW I'm partially paralyzed, yet STILL manage to trip regularly. To say those disabled spots are sufficient is insulting and demeaning. Algonquin is for ALL users, not just the able bodied, and literally has nothing to do with the topic on hand- to book by lake or site. Barry's PCI project is no different than the hundreds of bloggers out there that review different sites, except by scope, and has little to do with the changing face of regulations, all it does is provide a detailed description of each site and lets the user decide if it's suitable for them, that won't change one bit as the decision to use that site is still YOURS, whether you proceed to the site to pick it or have to pick from a map...