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Bunch of BS if you ask me. Makes me wonder when Algonquin will open up for camping. Wouldn't be surprised if it's closed the whole month of May. Sick of this nonsense.
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Well there goes the ice out trip plan A through Z... I guess I'll go visit Walmart now...
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Marko_Mrko wrote:
Well there goes the ice out trip plan A through Z... I guess I'll go visit Walmart now...
That was my first thought, I can't hang out on my own in the woods but I can still go shopping.
That said, I'd rather we do short hard lockdowns than whatever reactionary political decisions are going on right now.
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Golf anyone?
Is it safe to reuse someone else's broken tee? Asking for a friend![]()
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swede the problem with the airports is that re- entry to Canada by citizens and landed immigrants is guaranteed under the Constitution and laws, and the only way to close them is to declare a National Health Emergency, and institute Martial Law to suspend the Constitution. That's a slippery slope we don't want to slide down.
Enforcement is unfortunately up to the individual police depts. who unfortunately can only issue you a summary offence ticket and give you a fine.
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Good points Griz but I am living under a health emergency lock-down and a form of 'martial law' has already been instituted. Cutting bait or fishing?
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Here is a thoughtful comment I’m pasting from Reddit by user CanuckBacon (not me):
I struggled to understand why they would do it, but have found three explanations that make at least some sense:
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The only guarantee I can provide.....some will say it goes to far, others not far enough.
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Yep, while I don't agree with it I can understand that it is a way of reducing travel mainly from the GTA. Just need to adapt- long day trips with early mornings. No sight in end with very few vaccines, international travel spreading new variants and no enforced quarantine and two pathetic dolts Ford (Freeland) and Trudeau calling the shots.
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Methye wrote:
Here is a thoughtful comment I’m pasting from Reddit by user CanuckBacon (not me):
I struggled to understand why they would do it, but have found three explanations that make at least some sense:
- To stem future May Long plans, as big bonfire parties have already been the source of transmission elsewhere (Grey Bruce). COVID-19 spreads less effectively outdoors but when people drink alcohol and party, they often get real close to each other
- The cost of rescuing someone in danger or who needs help is higher right now because emergency services are mainly focused on COVID-19, especially ICUs in many places.
- Avoiding people travelling. In the summer if people in Southern Ontario see that's there's tons of camping up here (because provincial parks are closed to camping right now). If people in big cities experiencing major outbreaks travel to"get away from it" they could end up in rural communities for food, gas, etc and interacting with people in settings where people don't have their guard up as much.
End quote.
So for those complaining about exemptions to the rule for treaty rights, keep in mind that the indigenous treaty-rights holder is not going to be driving North from Toronto to invade crown land. Likewise, if you live next to crown land, nobody cares what you do. This is to stop Bobby and Suzie from dragging their camper up highway 400 or whatever, getting a flat, breathing on the repair people, going to Tim’s, going to your local food-mart, breathing on you, and then invading your peaceful logging road campsite.
Thanks for posting this Methye.
These explanations make sense to me. I don’t really have a problem with shutting everything down, including camping, as part of a stay at home order. What I’m struggling with is the selective nature of the restrictions. As Petey pointed out, golf is still available and I’d say that’s as likely to facilitate transmission as camping (although probably wouldn’t carry the same risk of spreading between geographic areas).
I dunno. This all sucks. I really hope we get this under control and will see restrictions lifted in early May, but I’m beginning to think we might be looking at a repeat of last spring as far as the Park’s opening to camping goes.
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Methye wrote:
Here is a thoughtful comment I’m pasting from Reddit by user CanuckBacon (not me):
I struggled to understand why they would do it, but have found three explanations that make at least some sense:
- To stem future May Long plans, as big bonfire parties have already been the source of transmission elsewhere (Grey Bruce). COVID-19 spreads less effectively outdoors but when people drink alcohol and party, they often get real close to each other
- The cost of rescuing someone in danger or who needs help is higher right now because emergency services are mainly focused on COVID-19, especially ICUs in many places.
- Avoiding people travelling. In the summer if people in Southern Ontario see that's there's tons of camping up here (because provincial parks are closed to camping right now). If people in big cities experiencing major outbreaks travel to"get away from it" they could end up in rural communities for food, gas, etc and interacting with people in settings where people don't have their guard up as much.
End quote.
So for those complaining about exemptions to the rule for treaty rights, keep in mind that the indigenous treaty-rights holder is not going to be driving North from Toronto to invade crown land. Likewise, if you live next to crown land, nobody cares what you do. This is to stop Bobby and Suzie from dragging their camper up highway 400 or whatever, getting a flat, breathing on the repair people, going to Tim’s, going to your local food-mart, breathing on you, and then invading your peaceful logging road campsite.
Well thought out. I don't have a problem with them shutting this down. It will suck when the shut down camping in May too but it is what it is.
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The Trent Severn doesn’t open until mid May.
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Seems unlikely that May 14th date will stand. The stay at home order was extended by 2 weeks, that gets us to May 19 at the earliest.
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AlgonquinLakes wrote:
Seems unlikely that May 14th date will stand. The stay at home order was extended by 2 weeks, that gets us to May 19 at the earliest.
May 21 I think is the earliest you can expect to go in now. My May 15 trip will get cancelled.
I’m upping the ante. Just booked a replacement solo trip mid June through Dickson Bonfield. Will stop on Lavieille for 3 nights.
Big windy open site.
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I have a booking for St. Andrews / St. Francis starting on the 17th. Waiting for the cancellation notice - I wonder what La Verendrye will look like...
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Funny enough I have a reservation starting on the 21st, but I assume it won’t happen. Can’t see them lifting such heavy restrictions right before a big party weekend, nor do I think they should. Oh well, 2 years in a row missing chasing those first brookies.
On a similar topic, would fishing be considered exercise if I’m in my own neighbourhood? A friend and I were discussing if we would still be hitting trout opener next Saturday and not sure if it’s right or wrong.
Edit; fly fishing with a short walk in, no boat required.
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TripperMike wrote:
On a similar topic, would fishing be considered exercise if I’m in my own neighbourhood? A friend and I were discussing if we would still be hitting trout opener next Saturday and not sure if it’s right or wrong.
Edit; fly fishing with a short walk in, no boat required.
Even asking this question would have been completely unthinkable 14 months ago... nevertheless...
I'd say it qualifies as exercise. Hiking. With a stick. In a river. Worst case scenario, they actually wade out into the river for a warning. Why not fish from a canoe, that would certainly be fine.