Algonquin Adventures / 2018 Ice Out Predictions?

**Posted by ATVenture** 4/28/2018 7:31 am

Yesterday I seen a plane similar to the parks yellow Turbo Beaver buzz over Kiosk quite low, then about an hour later a helicopter did the same thing. Not sure what either was about, but I doubt they were checking the ice.

**Posted by Was Hardcore** 4/29/2018 6:34 am

Looks like Sunday Creek is open and flowing from 60 down to Norway lake.

**Posted by ShawnD** 4/29/2018 10:12 am

AP post on Twitter today.

Park Management will be assessing conditions this week as we approach Friday (our current tentative opening date). No word yet on a further delay but most lakes are still covered in thick ice. We will continue to post updates here.

**Posted by Trillium16** 4/29/2018 11:28 am

I had 9 days booked starting the 5th and have taken the $10.50 hit in order to change my booking to the 11th now rather than wait for the seemingly inevitable 'further delay' announcement and do it at no charge. That way I'm hopefully avoiding conflicts on the mad re-booking scramble when it comes. Hopefully they won't push it back more than another week!

**Posted by vanslyke** 4/29/2018 12:07 pm

ShawnD wrote:
AP post on Twitter today.

Park Management will be assessing conditions this week as we approach Friday (our current tentative opening date). No word yet on a further delay but most lakes are still covered in thick ice. We will continue to post updates here.

Thanks for the update!
Please post again if they make another twitter post.

**Posted by Abe Froman** 4/30/2018 1:03 pm

May 11th looks like the next attempt by Park Management. This one should do the trick (fingers crossed)

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**Posted by Moonman** 4/30/2018 1:35 pm

Yes, its up on the website now. I just got off the phone with the reservation service though and they still don't know the opening date has been extended till May 11, so I have to call back to make the change without penalty.

Moonman,

**Posted by kenny** 4/30/2018 1:38 pm

on Twitter as well. think this has to be one of the latest openings ever.

http://www.youtube.com/user/kayakcamper · **Posted by Uppa** 4/30/2018 1:44 pm

23rd versus the 30th, and even though most of that week was not really very warm there's substantial differences. The 30th versus the 7th will be way, way more significant. Opeongo is boxed just for a bit of reference.

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**Posted by spicol** 4/30/2018 3:15 pm

Hmm, QEII it is, then.

**Posted by vanslyke** 4/30/2018 5:44 pm

I think it'll be good to go for the 11th as planned.
It is going to be really warm over the next 10 days with sun and some rain in there. Now that shores are breaking up and the rivers and creeks in the park are flowing it shouldn't take too long.

Kempenfelt bay of lake simcoe is roughly the size of opeongo. It was fully locked a week ago, now it is fully open.

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**Posted by AlgonquinGuy** 4/30/2018 10:12 pm

sdmoulto wrote:
Top- Lake Opeongo April 24, 2018
Bottom - Lake of Two Rivers - April 24, 2018

Lake of Two Rivers could be opening up any day now and quickly, while Opeongo looks like it could be quite different by the weekend. Its going to be close folks!

Sean

Nope. Not different. Much of the same.

**Posted by trippythings** 4/30/2018 11:18 pm

trippythings wrote:
If ice out is later than average, does that usually mean black flies will start hatching/biting later than average as well? Or are the two not directly related in that sense.

I'm considering a trip around May 16-20 but not sure if that's too late if I'm trying to avoid the bugs

Quoting myself from earlier in the thread, but I want to ask again... I was initially planning May 16 - 20 but the route I want to do is no longer available so I would have to push it back to May 23 - 25. With the new ice out forecast, do you guys think I'll be able to beat the bugs on those dates, or will it be a risky bet?

http://www.youtube.com/user/kayakcamper · **Posted by Uppa** 5/01/2018 5:20 am

The black flies might be out this year before the park is even open for camping...

(No, I'm not joking).

**Posted by ATVenture** 5/01/2018 5:32 am

Yesterday at Kiosk I seen one very small black fly buzzing around me for a bit, countless butterflies, many 'house flies', LOTS of chickadees and Gray Jay's, and 3 very confused loons. The loons were swimming in the small bit of open water that runs under the land bridge.
The shore is open all around the lake now and access to the ice is no longer possible.
I give it 7 days from today.

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**Posted by andrewr0520** 5/01/2018 6:40 am

If the lake ice recedes completely before the 11th, will they open the park ahead of that date?

**Posted by ShawnD** 5/01/2018 6:50 am

I now have 2 later May trips so very interested in the questions posed above.

Does a late/cold spring mean later bugs or fewer bugs or dare we hope both.

Scouring the internet...the best I could find was this. Posted a few days ago and it speaks to the NY area.

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/cold-spring-mosquitoes