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Looks interesting. I retired from Rogers over 2 years ago otherwise I would have likely been involved in the launch but as it stands I don't know much. I just signed up for the beta.
It is free until the end of Oct. and looks like you don't need to be a Rogers mobile customer to join.
$10/mth after that for the first 12 months. Will try it out and see if it is worth it yet. Eventually this will spell the end of Inreach etc..Not sure if we are there yet though.
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SpaceX's Cellular Starlink Arrives in Canada Through Rogers
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It's the battery life that will keep InReach relevant (unfortunately). I don't know of a phone that will last a week+ on a charge.
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scratchypants wrote:
It's the battery life that will keep InReach relevant (unfortunately). I don't know of a phone that will last a week+ on a charge.
I dunno, I can get 7-8 days with minimal usage out of mine. I can also get a lot of power banks or solar for the cost of just 1 season of inReach. Plus a phone affords the luxury of weather updates and any alerts we may need.
I've been waiting on this over Garmin or a PLB for years, glad to see it's finally coming.
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So they accepted me I’m on the beta. Won’t be on a trip for a bit but will try it out.
A few more things I have learned.
Need to be on a newer device. iPhone 13 or newer or a newer Samsung etc.
If you are a Rogers customer and on an Ultimate plan it will be included in the plan after the beta at no additional cost.
If you need to pay for it …$10/mth for the first 12 months 15/mth after that.
You will be able to cancel and re-add the feature at anytime if you are paying for it.
I looked at the coverage map. All of APP is covered. Plan on hiking the Pukaskwa Coastal trail in Sept .. it is all covered. Most places in Ontario even further North look covered. Wabakimi , Woodland Caribou etc all covered.
I think it’s just texting no data for now. . So looking at your weather network app won’t work. You would need someone to send you a forecast for the area you are in.
“ the service will expand to picture messaging, data, and even voice calls down the road.”
I will add part of me isn’t happy for its arrival. I like the disconnect but as someone who has had emergencies in the backcountry and have family members with health issues the pros out weigh the cons.
Can we all agree now to treat it like a movie theatre though ? All phones on silent mode please. 🙏
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This is going to be crazy with people fully connected anywhere. I've been choosing places specifically for the lack of mobile coverage and it appears that will disappear soon.
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IanTendy wrote:
scratchypants wrote:
It's the battery life that will keep InReach relevant (unfortunately). I don't know of a phone that will last a week+ on a charge.
I dunno, I can get 7-8 days with minimal usage out of mine. I can also get a lot of power banks or solar for the cost of just 1 season of inReach. Plus a phone affords the luxury of weather updates and any alerts we may need.
I've been waiting on this over Garmin or a PLB for years, glad to see it's finally coming.
I can get 3 days, tops if i don't use anything. If intended use is similar to InReach - providing route updates - that's going to cost some power. And battery banks aren't light. Don't get me wrong - I love the idea, I'm just speculating on practicality. The InReach is a tough little nugget of a device. I trust it as part of an overall safety plan. My cell phone does not meet my requirements in a back country situation. Now if a hardened, mission-specific mobile device were available...
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Satellite connected cellular internet will definitely be a game changer and will provide capabilities you can't get with a dedicated device like an inReach. On the other hand, I can have my inReach running all day every day sending tracking points every 10 minutes and maybe recharge it once a week. My iPhone might last as long in airplane mode, but then it wouldn't be connected.
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I confirm that I was able to successfully send and receive satellite text messages using my iPhone when I was on the Nipissing River a couple weeks ago. If it works again on my next trip, I will likely cancel my inReach Mini 2 subscription and sell that device.
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Talk about bad timing! I literally bought a Zoleo 3 weeks before the launch of Rogers satellite. Finally decided to buy one after all these years primarily due to family members with some health issues. I knew the Zoleo was a device that could get obsolete soon, but didn't imagine it would be that quick! Thought I might justify the purchase through a couple years of use.
Bought it a week before a family Temagami backcountry trip & also used on a solo trip.
Well another device to add to my collection of obsolete tech devices...
Sales of these devices I'm sure will drop off a cliff & have little resale value due to high cost of monthly fees vs Rogers satellite. Very niche product now. Main reason I got the Zoleo was emergency SOS/messaging, which Rogers satellite basically replaces. The breadcrumb tracking feature & push one button to send I'm OK with GPS coordinates is nice, but not the core reason to own a device like Zoleo. Sure weather updates are also a nice feature, but at the same time I can get a family member to text me a weather update.
And yes there is the long battery life of devices like the Zoleo, but at the same time I make sure to have enough battery power for my phone to last the duration of a trip (power bank and/or solar panel) since my phone is an essential device (GPS/navigation, camera...) so it does not impact me at all to ensure my phone has enough battery power since it already does.
If Zoleo doesn't drop prices by 50% to compete with Rogers price, the Zoleo is officially a paper weight...
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So my experience with the iPhone satellite has been very poor. I was in Killarney two weeks ago and it did not work all (bell lake loop). I just returned from an Algonquin trip (out of kiosk to manitou, biggar, north Sylvia, maple and back to the van at kiosk). It was spotty. Would pretty much consistently send my location to my dad and kids who were following me, but messaging was extremely hit and miss. I would sit in the evening multiple times with my phone supposedly “connected” for 15-20 minutes trying to send a message and have no luck. Then the next morning I would try to send a message and it would send almost immediately. Responses were also spotty with some coming instantly, some later the same day and a handful arriving when I got back into cell phone range. Basically it was exactly what the old saying says….you get what you pay for. It’s free and I can’t complain because of that, but I wouldn’t trust it.
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I actually just killed my original inReach and bought a mini. I won’t be cancelling it to save 25$ a month for awhile. It isn’t just the battery life I value. It’s also that the device is pretty hardy and it’s independent of the phone. I’m sure eventually I’ll switch over but definitely not yet.
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Jdbonney wrote:
So my experience with the iPhone satellite has been very poor. I was in Killarney two weeks ago and it did not work all (bell lake loop). I just returned from an Algonquin trip (out of kiosk to manitou, biggar, north Sylvia, maple and back to the van at kiosk). It was spotty. Would pretty much consistently send my location to my dad and kids who were following me, but messaging was extremely hit and miss. I would sit in the evening multiple times with my phone supposedly “connected” for 15-20 minutes trying to send a message and have no luck. Then the next morning I would try to send a message and it would send almost immediately. Responses were also spotty with some coming instantly, some later the same day and a handful arriving when I got back into cell phone range. Basically it was exactly what the old saying says….you get what you pay for. It’s free and I can’t complain because of that, but I wouldn’t trust it.
Interesting - I used it again on my most recent trip to Fraser Lake a couple weeks ago and found that it worked seamlessly again. In fact, it connected to the satellite and sent messages faster than my inReach Mini 2. Also, the fact that the iPhone directs you where to turn/point the phone to achieve the strongest satellite connection was very useful compared to the Garmin, which requires the antenna to point to the sky in hopes of connecting to the satellite that passes over approximately every 10 minutes.
After two successful trips using it, I went ahead and cancelled the Garmin subscription and will be using the iPhone satellite messaging going forward. This was a no brainer for me, especially considering the price increases for the Garmin subscriptions in recent years.
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I had a chance to use it this past weekend from Redrock and Opeongo and was pretty happy with the results. I found that texts actually seemed to come back quicker than with my InReach, to the point where I was able to have an almost real time conversation with my wife. I’m going to use it again in a few weeks down in the Dividing Lake area (assuming there isn’t cell service down there) and a couple more times later in the fall. if all that goes well I’m probably giving up the InReach subscription.