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6/28/2024 8:42 pm  #1


Route Suggestions for a Summer Camp Group

Hi all, my daughter is working at Camp Huronda (summer camp for kids with Diabetes in Huntsville area this summer. after a few summers post Covid with no tripping they are back to planning trips for older kids and has asked me for suggestions of a 5 day trip for a group of 15-17 year old boys. preferences would be Tim or Mag access or anywhere along HWY 60 corridor - nothing too aggressive - typical day would be on the water by 10, arrive at camp around 3. bear in mind these are novice trippers. they'll have an experienced tripper and med staff with them. my immediate thought was the group of experts here for advice!  Any suggestions would be appreciated. 

 

6/29/2024 2:13 pm  #2


Re: Route Suggestions for a Summer Camp Group

Further east along the 60 corridor and not sure if your planning on multi day break/set up locations or base camping but have you considered Farm/Booth area? Just a thought. 

Last edited by Andy W (6/29/2024 2:15 pm)

 

7/01/2024 5:38 am  #3


Re: Route Suggestions for a Summer Camp Group

Perhaps Ragged - Bonnechere - Harness - Little Island?

Tim access gets a lot of winding rivers...maybe not the most fun if you are a novice at steering a canoe.
Mag access gets you a long portage somewhere in there...maybe not the most fun
Bunches of options out of Canoe Lake too
 

 

7/02/2024 8:36 am  #4


Re: Route Suggestions for a Summer Camp Group

Firstly, Huronda is a fantastic summer camp.  My son went there for a few years and thoroughly enjoyed himself, a wonderful experience!
As PaPaddler mentioned Canoe Lake offers many options such as the well traveled Big Trout loop. 
North Tea isn't too much further away, a loop to Maple might be worth a look.
Smoke Lake through Louisa with a Rock Lake pick up provides nice options.
 

 

7/02/2024 8:45 am  #5


Re: Route Suggestions for a Summer Camp Group

Canoe Lake area is popular because it offers lots of variety and campsites, pretty scenery and a fun throwback into some of the park's history. The south side of the highway through Smoke, Ragged, Parkside Bay, Big Porcupine are also very attractive for some of the same reasons. Both areas offer a wilderness experience without being too far from the exit. These are the pros which are also the cons as the areas can be busy but, busy is relative. These would be good candidate areas for your needs. Pa is right, I would not recommend the Tim R. Water levels can be low, beaver dams will need to be lifted over and not very scenic compared to lots of other options. If you can trip mid-week you will encounter smaller crowds. Have a great time!

 

7/02/2024 8:57 am  #6


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Hi Lukatch - I am more familiar with the area of the park you're interested in than any other area of the park, so for once I might actually be able to help somebody.  I'd recommend something like this:

Day 1: Magnetawan-Hambone-Ralph Bice.  If it were me, I'd push on from Ralph Bice to Little Trout.  You just never know what the weather will do, and Ralph Bice can get pretty unpleasant in the wind.  The portages are short and not difficult.  I'm not familiar with the sites on Ralph Bice, but there are a million of them and it is well-traveled, so I imagine most are decent. If the group is large enough to need two campsites, Ralph Bice could present a headache, because the two campsites could be pretty far away from each other. 

Day 2: Ralph Bice or Little Trout - Queer-Little Misty-Misty.   The 2400 meter from Queer to Little Misty is just about pancake flat and wide, so the kids can talk about tackling a long carry, but it won't be like Everest for them.  The 900 into Misty isn't bad, there's a little more up-down there, but they'll be ok.  Really pretty lake.

Day 3: Misty-Muslim-Wenona-Bandit.  The 1030 from Misty isn't bad, it will be a mild but consistent uphill carry.  Bandit has two sites, very close to each other.  The island site is probably better suited to a larger group than the peninsula site, only because the thunderbox at the peninsula site is kind of centrally located, like a throne on a hill almost.  There are some trees around it, you can get some privacy, but with a larger group that might not be ideal.  Both campsites have plenty of space to spread out.  The only reason I would stop at Bandit instead of Moccasin for this day is because Moccasin, while an awesome lake to explore, has two sites, and just eyeballing the landings as I've paddled past, both look a little challenging to load/unload from.  I could be wrong.  I'm not sure I've ever stayed on Moccasin, but the northernmost campsite looks like it is quite large to me as I've passed by.

Day 4 - Bandit or Moccasin - Addisons Pond - Petawawa River - Daisy.  The Moccasin to Addisons shorty portage can be skipped if water levels are ok.  Unique feature about Addisons is that it is an echo chamber.  When you get to the little bay in front of the portage to the Petawawa, it is incredible how much feedback sound you get.  It is immediate and almost amplifies the sound.  The 800 meter to the Petawawa is very downhill.  It isn't bad unless it is raining a lot.  It ends with a split log bridge segment and the put in area can be a little exciting since it is a bit marshy, but they'll be fine and it will give them a story to tell.  They'll be paddling upstream on the Petawawa, but the current is not bad at all, no worries there.  There are three or four beaver dams to pull over.  They aren't bad, the kids will be novice for the first one but pros by the last one.  They'll get to say they pulled over a beaver dam plus they get some river travel.  There are two portages that go along the river, complete with photo ops in front of small waterfall areas.  The carries aren't bad, and you end up Daisy, which is home for the night.  Daisy has some nice sites on it, you can research them a bit ahead of time, but for a large group I think I like the furthest west or the western island site.    

Day 4 - Daisy-Acme-Hambone-Magnetawan.  This is a pretty short hop to the cars.

I think these segments would fit the 10am-3pm travel idea for a group...if not the kids can yell at me later on!  

Sorry to be so exhaustive.  I write too much.  Ask anybody. 

Last edited by MooseWhizzer Dave (7/02/2024 3:54 pm)

 

7/09/2024 9:32 pm  #7


Re: Route Suggestions for a Summer Camp Group

thanks all for the suggestions. and especially for the detailed option from you MooseWhizzerDave. i've sent them off to my daughter!. Sorry for delayed reply. just back tonight from a full week front country camping on Rock Lake with the trailer and my two youngest and their 2 best friends. saw moose, bear, beaver, fox, marten  and caught a crap ton of horrible rock bass, mini perch, undersized brook trout, undersized small mouth bass.......the lake trout and full size smallmouth bass were MIA this past week despite lots of efforts. i do love backcountry more, but i do enjoy this annual trailer camping week with the kids. it's amazing how algonquin is my and many others happy place. 

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7/13/2024 1:40 am  #8


Re: Route Suggestions for a Summer Camp Group

Glad to help; hope it helped!

 

7/13/2024 8:16 am  #9


Re: Route Suggestions for a Summer Camp Group

gee,, i was at rock lake, just briefly after my trip,,  july 9 th
     driving  around the hydro sites , i noticed 3,4,5 tents on sites not including dinning tents and vehicles parked all over, the booth rock trail is closed,
    only 2 of 7 or 8 showers were working at that time,  and boil water alert,
 almost forgot to mention the vistors center does not have a cafe any more,,  (job cuts? ) since covid,,  the assistant at the self server coffe bar could not get the coffee maker to work , and could not make change , all i had was a 20,,
   no coffe for you,,  
         
    

Last edited by swedish pimple (7/13/2024 8:30 am)

 

7/13/2024 10:27 am  #10


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i can confirm all what you say! we left the morning of the 9th from Rock Lake campground. there was a mass power outage the day before and same day that stretched across most of the park and all thru Barry's Bay  - intermittent outages and one surge toasted their diesel pump which runs the main waters for the rock lake campground....so no flush toilets, no hot showers....first world problems. the lake was still a refreshing morning or evening "dip".

and yes a lot of multiple tent sites that whole week and park staff ignoring that there were, very often, well over 6 people per site. i will say however that everyone was quiet and it was a peaceful week. no party groups.

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