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Backcountry » Lighter Weight Back Country Meals » 5/30/2019 11:50 pm

Ramses
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Steve E wrote:

It's gonna be hard giving up the pound of bacon each morning...I'm not going to lie...

Actually, bacon is one thing that you can keep with you pretty easily while still going for a lighter/simpler cook set-up.

Just buy pre-cooked bacon - it's usually sold alongside the normal bacon, but since it's pre-cooked and vacuum sealed, you don't need to refrigerate it.  You don't even need a pan for it - just lay it out on one of the ubiquitous grates, or use some sticks over the fire - its just needs to be heated up a bit, and it's pretty good to go.

We usually take a steak or sausage meal, with maybe a foil packet potato/pepper side in for the first night, and then just go dehydrated from there.  All the various brands have good and not-so-good meals, but generally, if you like lasagna, the lasagna meals will be fine, etc.

I see two huge benefits to using dehydrated meals (storebought or homemade): (1) super simple cook kit - you only need to boil like 2 cups of water for the meal - no pots, pans, kettles, tongs, spatulas, blah, blah - instant huge weight savings; (2) cleanup is waaaay easier - no pots to scrub, no camp soap, no making hot water for cleanup, no disposing of dirty dishwater - just boil a little water and put your tiny pot away.  Plus, any trash from the meal is easily packable - the storebought meal packets smash flat and ziplock shut.

For a break from dehydrated stuff and Cliff bars, we usually take tortillas for lunch.  Depending on weather, you can usually keep things like salami and cheese working for the first few days, and then switch over to peanut butter/jelly/honey (all in individual serving packets - not big jars).  No pots or pans required, easy cleanup, and tortillas - unlike bread - can't really get smashed in a food pack/barrel.

As for fishing - I'm a really bad fisherman, but I've found bringing all the stuff I'd like for a backwoods fish fry just isn't worth the weight.  But that is purely personal preferenc

Trip Planning » French River questions - black flies and hammocks. » 5/29/2019 11:57 pm

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Thanks to all who replied and sent PMs with advice.  The bugs turned out to be a non-issue - even though the people at Hartley Bay even said it would be bad.  We also had no real trouble finding hammock-friendly sites.

Some advice though for anyone thinking about doing the Frnech River anytime soon: check on the water levels before you go.  When we arrived, the park had shut down all traffic through the West Channel/Five Fingers area, as well as the Main Outlet at the Dalles rapids.   We were told we would die even if we tried to portage becuase the portages were all flooded.

We made it through to the Bay at the Bass Lake outlet, but another foot of water level rise, and even that portage would've been a waterfall.

The Georgian Bay was great, though the water level was relatively high there too.

I'd heard the Pickerel River was pretty badly burned over in the 2018 Parry Sound fire, but had heard nothing about Fox Creek - in fact I don't think I've ever read anything about anyone ever taking Fox Creek.  It was a neat paddle back that way.  It was burned pretty much from the southern-most Portage (which has been obliterated by the fire, so you have to make do) to about 3/4 of the way up to Pickerel Bay.  The 200m portage at the north end was a *very* steep climb up and down a granite hill - surprisingly difficult.

The French River is a beautiful place, and I'd like to go back sometime in better water levels.  We only saw one other canoe and two other occupied campsites the whole way.  Although, there was some power boat traffic - mostly in the northern end in the cottagey part.  Fox Creek was completely isolated (aside from the beavers and otters).

If anyone has any questions, feel free to let me know!
 

Trip Planning » French River questions - black flies and hammocks. » 5/21/2019 2:20 pm

Ramses
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Sorry - I know it's not in Algonquin - but it's close! 

I figured the experienced Algonquin folks would be familiar with the area.

I guess I'll tough it out and, if it's bad, it will let me appreciate my fall trip in Algonquin all the more.

Trip Planning » French River questions - black flies and hammocks. » 5/21/2019 12:02 pm

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I plan on being on the French River from about May 25 to May 29.  We will be doing a loop out to Georgian Bay and back.

I normally do summer/fall canoe tripping so I am overly paranoid about being out in peak black fly season, and am looking for advice or reassurance.

I'll be wearing long sleeves and pants (tucked into socks). I have gloves and a bug head net.  I'll have  most of my stuff permetherin-sprayed ahead of time, plus plenty of DEET. 

Does anyone have any idea of bug conditions right now on the French River (Hartley Bay says they are starting to come out).  Am I going to be miserable? 

Also, I normally hammock-camp, but I'm a little concerned about suitable tree locations in the rockier Georgian Bay sites (as well as being concerned about being in the trees during the black fly apocalypse).  Am I better off tenting it on the rocks, or is hammocking fine?

Thanks for any info!

Trip Planning » West vs. South » 8/25/2018 1:54 pm

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Thanks for the great responses - I'll take these ideas to the group - some fun looking trips!

I think we may be in over Canadian Thanksgiving, but looking at the reservations, it doesn't seem the backcountry sites will be very crowded.  It actually looks pretty empty, mostly.

Trip Planning » West vs. South » 8/24/2018 2:57 pm

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We are coming from the US for our second Algonquin trip in mid-October.  It will be a five-day, four-nighter, and I'm looking for guidance.

We are currently looking at either: 1) a West side, Access#3 Petawawa/Little Trout/Ralph Bice type of route; or 2) a south side, Cache Lake/Bonnechere/Smoke Lake type route.

Our previous Algonquin trip was from Access #2: Tim River/Rosebary/Longbow - which was a fun trip (though I found myself cursing the winding, beavery, Tim at times ).  We've also done many BWCAW, and other American canoe trips - so experience level is about one or two trips a year for about a decade.  Priorities include great scenery, wildlife , and, of course, as few people as possible.  We fish, but aren't very good, so not a huge priority.  We try to keep travel time to 4-5 hours a day, and a layover day is always welcome.

My questions are:

1) Does either of our potential routes clearly outweigh the other (whether scenery, difficulty, wildlife, remoteness)?
2) Is the Petawawa likely to be navigable in October?
3) Is there another type of route we should be looking at ((for travel purposes, on the west or south sides)?

Thanks for any advice - I've enjoyed perusing the site and forum!

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