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Equipment » Favorite Online Camping retailer? » 8/01/2021 1:13 pm

greenthinker
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I second the votes for VPO and Cdn Outdoor Equipment Co.  I've also had good success with Altitude Sports for (online) orders of camping gear - got a very good deal on a Jack Wolfskin tent and Nemo UL tent in recent years.

Ethics » lots of garbage from new campers?? » 7/20/2021 10:43 am

greenthinker
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The worst is when someone has piled up trash in the thunderbox. Where possible, I McGyver a system with sticks, to remove what's reachable, and pack that out.  Not fun. In an ideal world, people who go backcountry would have to first pass a test (maybe online, as with boating licenses?) on how to properly handle dish/grey water, sanitation issues, etc. The things no one really talks about with newbies.  And no one tells people checking in about how to handle women-specific sanitation issues (I suspect new women campers are not knowledgeable about how to pack out their sanitation products/waste). There really needs to be extensive education on this.

Ethics » lots of garbage from new campers?? » 7/19/2021 9:10 pm

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Trippy Things:
"The answer is always to pack it out. It's no tougher to carry trash out than it is to carry it in. If you bring it in with you, bring it out with you."

Heavens to Betsy!!! I meant OTHER people's giant mounds of trash and deciding how much I can physically manage to haul out. Not my own trash (never ever would leave anything behind). Sometimes it's not all that easy to bring other people's garbage out, when you're loaded to capacity.  I like to leave things better than I found them. That's getting tougher and tougher (and it started well before the pandemic).

Ethics » lots of garbage from new campers?? » 7/19/2021 11:35 am

greenthinker
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Hopefully this summer's messaging will help to educate and deter some bad behaviour. But IMHO it has been worsening, over the years (pre-pandemic). On a typical 2-week interior canoe trip, we pack out about 5-10 lbs of garbage (what we can carry). Each year it's a new "theme". I recall the year of the twist-tie, the year of the bread-plastic square, or the ubiquitous candy wrapper year.  Was actually thinking of starting a thread called "leave it or pack it out?" [referring to OTHER people's garbage you encounter], as sometimes it's tough to carry [other people's] trash out, such as on a long backpacking trip, yet I hate leaving it.  Empty fuel canister - leave or take out? Broken deck chair - leave or take out? Discarded nalgene bottle - leave or pack out? Super nervous about this year's 2-week WUT trip in Aug and how much garbage we'll find. The most prevalent last year was pre-pkgd foil/plastic meal pouches - lethal to wildlife but scattered at almost every site.  While not perfect, removing that requirement to check in, have human contact with staff, and be reminded about garbage is probably going to cause problems this year, with people being able to just head into backcountry.

Photos and Videos To Share » Micro-Drone (less than 250g) » 5/31/2021 9:07 pm

greenthinker
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One of the most stressful and disappointing experiences we had recently in AP was mid-way through a 13-day backpacking trip on Western Uplands. As we approached a beautiful peaceful meadow, we were puzzled with the annoying (technological non-nature) sound that, at first, wasn't identifiable. Then a drone buzzed by us, totally ruining our experience. The noise is just incredibly annoying - not what people go interior to hear. The young folks were very defensive and were just "filming a movie", they said. In our overly technological, industrialized world, it is so hard to get away from noise pollution, that hearing a drone in AP backcountry is beyond awful, IMHO. There is a good bit of research on this - that we are losing places that have only natural sound. This disrupts animal behaviour and is unnecessary noise pollution.  I wish we'd known, at the time, that drones were banned. The drone operators were adamant they could do whatever the hell they wanted, despite our attempts to persuade/educate.  It was one of the most angering experiences I've had in AP.

Skills » Permanent residents in APP » 9/23/2020 11:39 pm

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We've definitely seen signs of "emcampments" or whatever term is appropriate, along the Highland trail (maybe about 3-4 km in). It's in the distance, but it was an obvious permanent structure cobbled together out of tarps and wood. Was there in the early spring of 2019. Not sure about now, but I'll try to note it when next around that area, to see if it's still there.

Trip Planning » 2020-21 Hiking map error-Western Uplands trail » 4/28/2020 11:57 am

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UPDATE:  WUT map IS correct - changes to route.
Today, I received an email from FOAP: (emphasis in blue and bold is mine)

"Thank you for your interest in Algonquin Park and thank you for bringing this discrepancy to our attention.The 2020/21 Backpacking Map is correct (other than the random Backpacking site left on East End lake!), Ontario Parks staff have decided to remove that portion of the trail from the Western Uplands upper loop linking Rainbow to Brown hence the revision to the published map.The Ontario Parks reservation system should no longer have this portion of the trail as available and bookable I have reminded my Ontario Parks colleagues of this and expect it will be rectified soon."

I am without words. Well, no, I do have words: very unhappy. More pressure on the existing sites on that section of the loop.

 

Trip Planning » 2020-21 Hiking map error-Western Uplands trail » 4/26/2020 2:31 pm

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I bet everyone who's done that upper loop knows that spot. It seems like you should go up a short steep hill (and there is a worn-enough path to suggest many folks try that), when really you have to make a sharp right, and follow along the edge of a creek. There's not a trail marker anywhere to direct you until you get very far along the creek.

Trip Planning » 2020-21 Hiking map error-Western Uplands trail » 4/25/2020 2:12 pm

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Friends of Algonquin Park has not replied to my email.  Given the online booking system show the sites as reservable (despite the map error), I suspect they aren't changing the route. Wouldn't make sense. Map error, likely, but I sure hope they fix that before distributing it to anyone unfamiliar with the route!

Trip Planning » 2020-21 Hiking map error-Western Uplands trail » 4/11/2020 5:20 pm

greenthinker
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It's very strange, indeed. It's hard to imagine such a route change wouldn't be reflected in the online reservation system, or something that could happen by accident. The change of hiking campsites into canoe sites on Loft L. is really puzzling, as it wasn't just that a line somehow got left off.  Hope it's just a printing error, but that's too bad for FOAP since they might have to absorb costs.

Trip Planning » 2020-21 Hiking map error-Western Uplands trail » 4/11/2020 11:25 am

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We've hiked the upper sections of the W.U. trail several times and ordered a new map this year, which just arrived. For fun, were comparing with the prior map and noticed some very disconcerting changes (errors?)
- on the new map, the entire section/trail linking Rainbow L. with Loft, East End, and Brown is missing (gone!). No line, no distance markers and no campsites indicated on Loft. Oddly, the single backpacking site at East End is still showing on the map (as a distant remote island, without it being on a hiking route).  Strangely, the online reservation system lists Loft and East End as reservable. There's nothing indicating any change to the loops. This could cause a whole lot of problems if people are booking sites online, using the online map, if these lakes are being phased out.
Did anyone hear of Ont. Parks changing that upper loop?
(I have emailed Friends of Alg. Park, who prints the map to let them know).

 

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