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Trip Planning » Crossing algonquin park » Today 12:00 pm

PaPaddler
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Route-wise, of the portion that you outlined, appears relatively "do-able", weather permitting.    

However, what is your experience level with interior tripping and solo travel? 

Your responses appear to indicate that you haven't dedicated much time or thought to the prospect ahead (i.e. your route choice gets you two-thirds of the way there and is likely more difficult than heading down the Petawawa while portaging around the rapids) and I wonder if your experience is of a similar level.  If that is the case, I would recommend a smaller loop trip to work up to such an undertaking.  Having a lot of heart is great; when you're in the middle of a difficult portage after days of wearing down mentally and physically because you're ill-prepared can get you into trouble.   

What is your canoe and weight?
What transportation to get back to your starting point?
Hammock or tent?
Pack weight expected?
Food - dehydrated, clif bars?
Water purification?
Clothing/footwear options or concerns?

There are a lot of questions that might precede the route question and it sends up a couple red flags for me, personally.  I'm not saying it cannot be done...I just get the sense that you're taking a cursory approach.  I may be completely off base in my assessment since there isn't much information to go on.

 

Skills » Centering yoke pads » Today 11:55 am

Kurt
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I use two painters, tied to either side of the seat in front of the yoke.  I weigh the canoe so that it pulls slightly to the rear and wrap the painters around each hand so that I'm walking with my arms down and slightly away from the sides of my body.  It's a comfortable position, no switching hands, more control when walking around obstacles.  Don't usually have to touch the gunwales until I'm lifting it off of me...

Trip Planning » Crossing algonquin park » Today 11:40 am

Kurt
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This is an ambitious trip, the Petawawa would be easier in my opinion (all the portages around rapids are clearly marked and in the fall, the water level is low so there's no chance of being swept down), and there are sections that are identical to the Barron Canyon (around the natch rapids for instance).

Even with dried meals, I can't see solo one-tripping with 2 weeks worth of food, I'd suggest a food drop at Opeongo.

If you're determined to take the southern route, I'd recommend taking the hydro line cart trail from Green Leaf to Grand lake; that route through Carcajou and the Spectacles looks easier but it's not, especially in the fall.

One more piece of advice; you might as well accept that given the season, mother nature will be setting your travel schedule for you.  Opeongo for instance, could keep you wind bound for days if a storm rolls in....  don't fight it, "go with the flow".....

Catch-all Discussions » Algonquin Park Fire-out Contest! » Today 10:46 am

ShawnD
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hmm unfortunately i think its going to be a while. How about Aug 15th..

Prize suggestions.. How about one of these Marko.  have just the spot in my basement. LOL 

https://www.juicerville.ca/pages/home-freeze-dryers?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgKH51MGr3AIVQrXACh3c1gKhEAAYASAAEgLZ-PD_BwE

Trip Planning » Crossing algonquin park » Today 8:21 am

Curemd
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Mulder wrote:

I would start with the choke points that you have to hit and work your way back.

For Example - the only way to get to squirrel rapids from the west is thought one area. that have two  different routes.

One is 3 separate cart trails and a road that is probably going to equal a 22km portage. (McKaskills Lake to the the River above Carcajou Lake) 

The second is the low maintenance route from White Partridge Lake to the same area. ~ 10 km of portaging.

Consider that if you can't single carry.  That's alot of walking.  

Il be going the white partridge route, and single caryy will have to be a must. Just way to big of portage to be doubling back.
 

Trip Planning » Crossing algonquin park » Today 8:19 am

Curemd
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AlgonquinLakes wrote:

That sounds like a cool trip. How many km are you planning on covering each day? Are you looking to minimize portages (which I guess would mean mostly river tripping) or see different parts of the Park? You could look at setting up a food drop at Brent if you want to save weight.

 
I have no white water experience so me taking the petawawa river is not an option. Il be solo and safety for me is key.

Trip Planning » Crossing algonquin park » Today 8:18 am

Curemd
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My plan that i got so far, is  Misty forks - merchants lake - east arm lake opeongo- little dickeson - north branch- barron or green leaf.
Thats all i got so far and those seam like big days and me just kinda skimming through jeffs maps, im not familiar with east side of the park but would love to finish coming down the barron canyon. Alot of little portage around that area.

Trip Planning » Cranebill to Lily Pond Portage » Today 8:04 am

Has anyone done this portage this year? What kind of shape is it in? I'm having to re-plan my end of July trip because we lost a day and I'm wondering about working this in, but don't love the idea of 2.4 km of low maintenance portage if it's in bad shape.

Trip Planning » Crossing algonquin park » Today 6:57 am

Mulder
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I would start with the choke points that you have to hit and work your way back.

For Example - the only way to get to squirrel rapids from the west is thought one area. that have two  different routes.

One is 3 separate cart trails and a road that is probably going to equal a 22km portage. (McKaskills Lake to the the River above Carcajou Lake) 

The second is the low maintenance route from White Partridge Lake to the same area. ~ 10 km of portaging.

Consider that if you can't single carry.  That's alot of walking.  

Trip Planning » Crossing algonquin park » Today 6:39 am

That sounds like a cool trip. How many km are you planning on covering each day? Are you looking to minimize portages (which I guess would mean mostly river tripping) or see different parts of the Park? You could look at setting up a food drop at Brent if you want to save weight.

Ethics » Doug Ford's "clean up our parks" promise » Yesterday 8:30 pm

Barry , I find it interesting to read of your involvement with the advisory group for the AFA .
My education to similar observations as yours , was less formal and consisted of many a long drive throughout Algonquin's east side in the front seat of an AFA truck driven by my father .
To add just a few more " setbacks and buffers " ....... " fastidiously adhered to "
The protection of preferred breading areas of blanding's , wood and map turtles , osprey nests , raptors of many variety .
The protection of wolf dens , an iconic Algonquin Park keystone species .

I feel it is also worth noting , not only " obvious " short term adverse effects of logging .
In consideration to the readers of this forum , I think it well worth to know ,  the long term benefits of a science based silvicultural approach adhered to by the AFA , in their forest and wildlife management approach of an unnatural fire suppressed forest , and their endeavors to promote a healthy , sustainable forest which includes the management of early succession habitat for deer .


A few interesting and topical long term recommendations made by the Algonquin Wolf Advisory Group of 2000 , in their efforts to protect diminishing Algonquin Wolf ( canis lycaon ) numbers .

" This can be done by reducing forest crown to 50-70% , by selective removal of trees ."

" We recommend no interferences with natural disturbances  such as wildfire of natural origin ..... that produce early succession forests ( wolf prey habitat ) "

Another point to consider , and not yet mentioned by some , in their assumptions of an Algonquin without logging , would be the unresolved Algonquin Land Claim .
Their current involvement and future interests in logging is well documented .

" In the case of the Algonquin land claim, more is at stake than ancestral ties. The agreement in principle includes $300 million to be distributed among AOO members along with access to potential profits from natural resource and commercial developm

Trip Planning » Crossing algonquin park » Yesterday 8:10 pm

Curemd
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I will be doing it solo. Im going to go with minimal supply and hoping i can get down to single carries. I think i can pull it off.

Trip Planning » Crossing algonquin park » Yesterday 8:09 pm

EddyTurn
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Are you doing it solo? I wonder how much food you carry and where you keep it.
Cheers,
Sergey

Trip Planning » Crossing algonquin park » Yesterday 6:22 pm

Curemd
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Crossing algonquin West to east in september or early october.  Was thinking my best route is to start at magnetawan and end out squirrell rapids. Looking for advice or tips or even better your suggestions on wich lakes you would stay given at most 2 weeks to accoplish. Still not sure if i can single carry and im average in fitness. Lots of heart tho. Any thoughts would be great.

Trip Planning » Timberwolf Cr - Lily Pond to Timberwolf Lake » Yesterday 4:22 pm

TripperMike
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Hey all,  heading up in a few weeks for a loop from Canoe to Misty and back. 

Going up Potter's Cr day 1 and sleeping on Brule
Day 2 landing on Misty and considering trying to pass the lost portage/Timberwolf Cr route from Lily into Timberwolf lake.

Anyone here been through there?  Is it somewhat passable or are we just going to be slogging canoes with rope?

On Jeff's map it is signed as a lost route, though I don't think he has ever been through.  I have only found one trip report from someone who canoed from Timberwolf Lake and turned around at Larry's lake, but it sounded promising.

Anything helps here, satellite images show a lot of tree coverage.

Catch-all Discussions » Algonquin Park Fire-out Contest! » Yesterday 2:39 pm

August 19th ... my buddy's birthday.  Gotta have a campfire then ..  

Test Forum » test of image size » Yesterday 2:02 pm

This is a test of an image of a new book by Rory MacKay on the history of the Park, to be available in late July 2018.

http://i66.tinypic.com/r23hc3.jpg

 

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