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Ethics » lots of garbage from new campers?? » 7/24/2021 6:43 am

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Cadman_705 wrote:

nvm. 
Unfortunately with COVID we have had a influx of new campers coming to the park, I have often wondered about a per site reservation system this way you would always know who was on the site before you.
It would be easy to take pictures to the park office and have said party banned from the park. not sure if that's the answer but it a starting point.

actually that system is no better, because that site can sit for hours or days after the last "registered camper" left, leaving it open to abuse by other trippers, picnikers, anglers, and anyone else that went by during that time. Stopping at a vacant site for lunch is very commonplace, and "punishing" the former occupant for something that's out of their control only exacerbates the situation.
 

Catch-all Discussions » Park traffic? » 7/07/2021 5:48 pm

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I agree with Peek, I stopped watching Youtube "instructional" videos years ago because most of them are downright dangerous if not outright terrifying!

Earth Sciences » weather forecast info??? » 6/27/2021 8:17 am

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before leaving I check multiple outlets for my weather info, and no they don't get all their reports from Environment Canada, the Weathernetwork actually has quite a meteorological setup of their own with doppler and satellite access as well as the more traditional methods.
when tripping I bring a small (paperback- sized) multi band radio capable of receiving on 162.400 MHz- the Environment Canada broadcast frequency for central Ontario.
the list of frequencies for various locations is here- https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/weatheradio/find-your-network.html

Trip Planning » Otterslide Lake » 6/24/2021 7:18 am

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you can shorten your time by skipping or shortening your portaging time if there's enough water if you're not adverse to wading. You can avoid all but the last few metres of the Canoe- Joe portage by paddling up the channel to the dam for instance, same with Joe to L Joe (watch for spikes in the old log flume)

Catch-all Discussions » p.c. has hit algonquin park » 6/07/2021 6:35 am

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I'm actually surprised it took this long

Trip Planning » Lockdown extension? » 5/30/2021 7:05 am

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Rob wrote:

I get the frustration but he has pretty much said the restrictions are in place to limit travel.
I am in Northern Ontario surrounded by crown land sitting on a river trip starting in town and ending 20k out of town with my wife doing the shuttle and I can not pitch a tent solo. I could just go but disappearing from town and then being seen arriving with the canoe on the roof is asking for a visit from assorted levels of government.
Again Sighhhhhh

that may be the plan, but it's not reality- reality is that if you can afford a cottage or to play golf, you can drive 4 hours for your game or weekend cottage get away, and  stop for a couple of beers on the patio, yet I can't drive 5 minute to use my local campground, this in reality has little to do with travel and more to do with not inconveniencing those supporters that can afford to pay into his "campaign fund"
 

Trip Planning » Almost there » 5/27/2021 7:42 am

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Jdbonney wrote:

There seems to be a big push to get schools back open for some reason I can’t quite understand. June is usually a waste of time for school anyway, why rush them back and risk another jump in cases?

every teacher I've talked to says it's a complete waste of time because 90% of then month will be testing and review, then when September hits, 90% of the month will be testing and review again.
while none seem to be enjoying their new 12 hour days working at home (6 hrs teaching, 4 hours doing one on one for those that don't learn well on line or need remedial help, 2 hrs marking, grading, and lesson plans) they think forcing this on kids twice is just wrong. 
 

Trip Reports » i did a quick tour today. beauty day for a drive to algonquin and back » 5/20/2021 9:13 am

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Uppa wrote:

As Jdbonney said, a New York plate in and of itself doesn't mean a great deal. For all we know they've  emigrated to Canada and live in Huntsville. 

true enough, my work truck for one company was registered in Texas because that's where head office was. It also served as my personal vehicle. I used to laugh at the people looking in the window for a cowboy hat...
 

Trip Planning » Lockdown extension? » 5/15/2021 11:35 am

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hiker72, you've got it right, the feds can only offer advice in most cases, the actual rules are provincial jurisdiction except in National parks. but her announcement gives people challenging some of the ridiculous knee- jerk reactions ammo to pressure local and provincial officials.

Trip Planning » booking camp sites and selling them off at a profit » 4/29/2021 8:24 am

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TripperMike wrote:

I've always found the option to reserve but not be the permit holder online a bit odd.  Maybe they should get rid of that option?  Aside from booking for an organized youth group or kids under 18, why would you ever need to book a permit and not be the primary holder? (excluding the obvious answer - to sell the reservation).
 

that's another thing I did, before my daughter got a credit card, I'd make her reservations for her so they could charge my card. It's the only viable option when booking by phone or online- my name on the reservation, hers on the permit...
 

Trip Planning » booking camp sites and selling them off at a profit » 4/27/2021 8:20 am

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Marko_Mrko wrote:

Peek, you're absolutely right. this will do nothing.

I don't understand the need for transfer of permits... what scenario would you need to transfer?

I've had to do it a few times, once I couldn't go because I was needed for an emergency repair for work but my wife, in-laws and kid were still going, and a couple of times I was to lead group trips and got ill, requiring me to transfer the reservations to another trip leader.
 

Trip Planning » Top 3 Backcountry Meals » 4/21/2021 7:22 am

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generally speaking, night 1 is steak and baked potatoes or , if it's a long day wieners and beans (crown land) or spaghetti. night 2 will generally be burgers or sausages with potatoes, or chicken fried rice, and day 3 is generally chili, stew, or spaghetti (dehydrated). A bonus meal would be corned beef hash. 

Trip Planning » Ontario Closes Crown Land Camping » 4/17/2021 7:27 am

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petey wrote:

Good points Griz but I am living under a health emergency lock-down and a form of 'martial law' has already been instituted. Cutting bait or fishing?

not even close! None of your rights have been suspended, martial law means the constitution is suspended and police and the military have the final say in where you go, who you see, and even if you're allowed to leave your house.
I lived through the FLQ crisis, and I never want to be stopped by armed soldiers while tanks sit on the corner just to cross the street for a pack of smokes again!

Trip Planning » Ontario Closes Crown Land Camping » 4/16/2021 7:33 am

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swede the problem with the airports is that re- entry to Canada by citizens and landed immigrants is guaranteed under the Constitution and laws, and the only way to close them is to declare a National Health Emergency, and institute Martial Law to suspend the Constitution. That's a slippery slope we don't want to slide down.
Enforcement is unfortunately up to the individual police depts. who unfortunately can only issue you a summary offence ticket and give you a fine.

Catch-all Discussions » Park Fees...future » 3/30/2021 8:19 am

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sorry, but I've LED trips for over 20 years and know for a fact that most groups end up spread over a km or more, and KNOW most people don't realize they're a group until they get to the site.

Trip Planning » booking camp sites and selling them off at a profit » 3/30/2021 8:17 am

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European trip organizers have been doing it for years- they'd get their employees to book several sites for them, then charge a premium to customers to use the sites. I remember years ago we ran into a German couple who were complaining about prices- they paid $100US per night for their site PLUS another $75 for food and gear...
I suspect they used the "I book, but you go" loophole meant for parents of kids without credit cards.

Catch-all Discussions » Park Fees...future » 3/29/2021 9:29 am

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Eddy turn, I find the opposite is true, there are far more soloists and couples than there are large groups except on the "main street" routes.
 Once you get more than a day from the put-ins it's almost exclusively groups of 4 or less- soloists, couples, and families with one or two kids. just for logistics alone large groups are difficult for more than a few days due to different paddling styles and speed, food preferences, and abilities.
Your perception may be skewed simply because large groups are more noticeable,and take more time to cross lakes or portages, increasing your chances of contact. When I solo or go with my wife or a friend, you'd be hard pressed to even know I was there once I stop for the night, because one small tent set back from the lake, a single canoe pulled up and placed on the site, and a small fire (if any) isn't, all that noticeable compared to 3-4 canoes, a large cooking fire, and as many as 6 tents.

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