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Ethics » lots of garbage from new campers?? » 7/23/2021 2:38 pm

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Fair enough, it was a lot of typing though https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cute.png
. I've gotta say if I was leaving I probably still would have been inclined to take the rum, but I've come to learn that I can't explain other people's behaviour. 

I did read the ghost tent thread on MyCCR and to me it seemed like most people were not sympathetic to them, and would happily take them down. Of course no one is suggesting dismantling someone else's active campsite, but it's pretty easy to tell the difference (IE, is the tent a cheap piece of junk that's completely empty and just acting as a space holder, usually monitored for days). Most of that conversation referred to crown land, but leaving ghost tents in Algonquin is surely against the rules as well as being morally dubious.

Trip Planning » Bushwhacking from Opeongo to Burnt Island, looking for information » 7/23/2021 9:16 am

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I have no idea but will second solos recommendation to use the Ontario imagery software instead of Google Maps. Way higher resolution:

https://www.ontario.ca/page/crown-land-use-policy-atlas

Ethics » lots of garbage from new campers?? » 7/23/2021 9:12 am

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I guess I need to provide the full set of circumstances to avoid being immediately judged as a thief!

It was a small lake with 2 sites on it. We had one reservation for the weekend, and the second site was already booked when I made my reservation. When we arrived at the lake you could see one party set up on the other site, and you couldn't see the site with the green tent on it. We paddled over to the unoccupied site and were surprised to see a tent set up, as well as other garbage (or unrelinquished possessions, depending on your perspective I guess): A brand new, incredibly low quality fishing rod/reel missing some parts, which were later found strewn around the campsite, The packaging for said fishing rod as well as other fishing gear, A 1/3 full glass bottle of Appleton's rum, Miscellaneous other garbage/packaging. Naturally, we immediately assumed that the site was occupied (illegally, as we were the second permit holder for the lake that night) and pondered our next step. The tenants of the other site on the lake walked over (the sites are in pretty close proximity) and we chatted about the tent and the fact that when they arrived on the lake they also assumed that site was taken so they went to the other site. However, no one had shown up to the green tent in the hours between when they arrived and we arrived. 

We all decided that in fact, the tent had been abandoned. That perception was reinforced by taking a look inside the tent (breaking and entering?)- it was completely empty save for the inch of rain water pooled in the low end (thanks Canadian Tire). With that, we decided to declare the items abandoned, and proceeded to set up on our reserved site (yes, I understand you don't reserve specific sites in Algonquin- again, 2 sites on the lake, 2 permit holders in attendance on the lake, we each get one). Over the next 2 days no one showed up to claim their garbage. When we left we packed up all our stuff, and all the garbage, and left the site in nice,

Ethics » lots of garbage from new campers?? » 7/21/2021 7:03 pm

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'Leave it or pack it out?'

I packed it out and sold it on Kijiji. Still disappointing to see it at the site along with all the other stuff that was abandoned there- mostly new, very low quality camping equipment and packaging. 

https://i.ibb.co/vd5KJh9/IMG-5123.jpg

Trip Planning » Option to view campsite availability again for backcountry » 6/11/2021 10:07 pm

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Amazing, just bought the developers a couple coffees.

I will quote again from my March 11, 2020 email from Ontario Parks, which was a followup to my original inquiry. In other words, in early 2020, this was the second time that they lied about intending to reinstate this level of information on the booking site:

"Thank you for your response.
 
We want to assure you that we are working closely with our service provider to address your outlined concerns. We are unable to provide an estimated timeline for implementation of backcountry zone occupancy at this time. Thank you again for your feedback.
 
Sincerely,
 
Ontario Parks"

I'm glad someone was willing to get up and do it. Obviously it's not impossible, and it's great to have that information available again.

Trip Planning » Almost there » 6/01/2021 9:40 am

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rgcmce wrote:

The death rate a year ago was dominated by long term care.  That is no longer the case.
Pollyanna thinking will not make this go away.
 

 
Not to derail this thread too much (although, it is a COVID thread), but I'm not suggesting that any kind of thinking is going to make this go away. What I'm saying is that accurate and honest stat reporting is important, and exaggeration and fear mongering will do no good either. Comparing this spring's case rate data to last spring is simply impossible. We were not testing the same spread of people last spring- by and large people with mild symptoms weren't being tested, asymptomatic people weren't being tested, etc. Yes the death rate was heavily influenced by the disaster that took place in LTC buildings, but you can't compare May 2020 vs May 2021 case numbers and draw any conclusions. However, if you were to compare May 30 of last year to this year you would see daily cases numbers of 343 vs 916, not "a factor of 10."

https://globalnews.ca/news/7358376/coronavirus-canada-cases-testing-increase/ :
("Between March and May, it wasn’t unusual to see daily provincial case counts top the 400 and 500 marks, but the strategy at the time was to test “only the sickest,” Chakrabarti said. Testing centres were just getting up and running, he added, so case counts were “under-called.”
“Something like 400 may have been more like 1,500 or 2,000,” he said. “We were likely missing a lot of them.”")

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/ask-covid-testing-questions-1.5777576 :

("...— about quadruple the 12,000 it ran on April 24 when the province hit a spring peak of 640 cases. 
At that time, Chakrabarti estimates about three-quarters of cases were being missed, and there were likely closer to 2,500 cases a day in late April.")

It's pretty clear that the reason the case numbers were low in the spring of 2020 is because testing was low. We were facing a big problem then and responded appropriately (loc

Trip Planning » Almost there » 5/31/2021 7:59 am

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rgcmce wrote:

petey wrote:

.... Regardless, we are in a much different situation compared to last year and more things were open last summer.

We are currently running almost a factor of 10 higher than the case rate for this date last year with the death rate being about the same.
(Sorry petey, I was quoting Austin.M, not you)

 
Year over year case rate comparisons aren’t very useful however. Our testing protocol is way more thorough now than it was then. Hospitalization and deaths were a more accurate indicator- look at the first wave vs second (spring vs fall of 2020)- the hospitalization numbers were similar but the ‘case numbers’ were way higher in the fall. It just means we were actually testing by the fall. If the case rate in spring of 2020 was accurate, THAT varient (the original) would have been far and away the most deadly, but our case counts weren’t accurate.

Catch-all Discussions » Park Fees...future » 3/25/2021 7:54 am

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10% fee hike, 10 minutes of coding to make it happen, no one would say a thing and the parks would become self sustaining. It’s mind boggling that they didn’t just go with that approach.

Trip Planning » How many sites per lake? Thanks, Ontario Parks » 3/06/2021 11:01 am

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I think you’re right. Unfortunately for them they can’t say it outright, so I’m going to bug them again! 

Trip Planning » How many sites per lake? Thanks, Ontario Parks » 3/06/2021 9:24 am

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Responses to my emails to OP about this matter:

Dec 2019- “We have flagged these details you note below to our reservation service team and can confirm that we are actively looking into including this detail.”

Mar 2020- “We want to assure you that we are working closely with our service provider to address your outlined concerns. We are unable to provide an estimated timeline for implementation of backcountry zone occupancy at this time. Thank you again for your feedback.”

Makes me want to get a job at CAMIS- seems the bar is set pretty low.

Catch-all Discussions » Park Fees...future » 3/06/2021 9:13 am

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It shouldn’t be too much to ask for a FOI on the current park usage stats. That information must be pretty at-hand, with the reservation system they know the party size per reservation made.

I would suspect that it averages out to about 4, but I don’t know. But in the end it doesn’t really matter- if the system was operating at a 10% deficit they should raise the prices by 10%. Easy as that, no one would complain, most people wouldn’t even notice. This isn’t a business, it’s not necessary to maximize revenue or ‘streamline models’ (ie, just make the prices similar...? How this would have any practical ‘streamlining’ function I can not imagine... what are they even attempting to ‘streamline’?).

Any costs incurred by making a reservation are surely covered by the reservation fee, and CAMIS is the party responsible for that. The park’s operating expenses are going to be higher level things- flying planes to check ice out, having rangers and front line staff and washrooms and parking lots, clearing portages, all the office costs. In the end I would think that the cost of running a park is pretty much based on how many people go to the park, and not the act of having a campsite and booking people on it. Raise prices 10%, and you’re done. All the downsides of the per site pricing have been clearly laid out here- it’s time to email Jeff Yurek directly. I doubt anyone gives a hoot about our whining on this forum.

Trip Planning » Reservations for 2021 so far. » 2/24/2021 7:57 am

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northernfox wrote:

Yes a few more people are interested in outdoors these days. Lets remember last year this time parks were closed across Ontario until June 1. So comparing last year to this year may not be the true picture.

 
Totally, at this time last year we really didn’t have an idea of what covid would become in Canada. Reservation wise it should have been a normal year. It will be the ‘day of arrivals’ numbers in July that will be interesting to compare. I’m sure it will be the same, or higher, but with many lakes fully booked last year in the summer, it can’t really get busier than that!

Equipment » Helinox chair hack » 2/18/2021 10:21 am

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ShawnD wrote:

And if you don’t like money but are sick of sinking into soft soil or sand a UK company has started making these.

https://www.chairbuddies.com
£25 shipped to Canada.

https://outdoorguru.com/outdoorgear-en/camping-table-chairs/chair-buddies-clip-on-camping-chair-feet-review/

 
Made in the UK too, nice!

Equipment » Helinox chair hack » 2/18/2021 10:17 am

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ShawnD wrote:

Hey Eddy

I always find it difficult to comment on comfort with these chairs. Depends alot on body shape, height and weight I think. I’m 6ft about 170 and to me ....Heavier the chair the more comfortable it is. I find my Travelchair Joey slightly more comfortable than a Chair one ( Joey is about 3-4ozs heavier) and both of those chairs noticeably more comfortable than a Chair Zero.( Zero is at least a lb lighter though)

I don’t find the Zero uncomfortable though, if it were the only chair like this I had tried I wouldn’t know any better.

If 2 chairs are available at camp though I’m sitting in the heavier chair every time.

 
I agree with this 100%. The Zero is a great chair and in most ways more comfortable than the Monarch, but the One is definitely a step more comfortable. The Zero’s fabric digs in a bit over time IMO. They are close to the same size packed up, so for canoe camping I would go with the One. For hiking you’d be happy with the Zero.

Photos and Videos To Share » Micro-Drone (less than 250g) » 2/16/2021 7:58 am

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The only time I have seen a drone in the wilderness was when camping on a crown land lake. The operator was sufficiently courteous so far as privacy was concerned, but that didn’t stop it from being incredibly annoying. I go canoe camping to get away from motors and engines if at all possible, and even a respectfully operated drone shatters that peace. I’m fully in support of the park wide ban.

Catch-all Discussions » cottage lease increases, causes people to walk? » 2/13/2021 11:11 pm

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What’s the ballpark lease fee cost?

Trip Planning » Ranger Cabins?? » 1/27/2021 2:31 pm

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I tried to book over the phone for a May cabin weekend. At first the agent thought the cabin was reserved already, however after checking a few other cabins we became suspicious that they were actually not rentable. She checked with a supervisor who said that indeed, they’re not renting backcountry roofed accommodations this year unless they can be accessed by vehicle. So, Rain lake and the one up in the north end (Kiosk?) are reservable. I think, as crazy as it sounds, that they’re sending staff in there to ‘disinfect’ between rentals. Don’t quote me, but that was the impression we got.

I’m now 0/5 for getting into a cabin for an early May trip- typically foiled by ice, and last year of course by covid.

I’d be interested if anyone else hears otherwise though. As we know, CAMIS doesn’t always have the correct info.

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