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Trip Planning » Talk to me about Unicorn Hill » Yesterday 8:15 pm

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solos wrote:

What would really worry me is a portage so steep that you couldn’t climb up or you’d slip back for lack of traction. I sometimes encounter that in my local woods when it’s icy or muddy and it really sucks to have to crawl up the hill on all fours. Haven’t experienced that yet in Algonquin but I did once look at, in passing, the 45 m portage on the Islet Lake railway embankment. Jeff recommends 30 minutes+ to traverse that.

I've had a few of those moments in Killarney but I can't recall anything in Algonquin that steep that I've personally been through.

Muddy is another story though, it doesn't even have to be that steep, but if it's wet/muddy I'll always be extra cautious.
 

Trip Planning » Talk to me about Unicorn Hill » Yesterday 8:13 pm

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solos wrote:

trippythings wrote:

...I was with my girlfriend so thankfully didn't need to double carry
 

 That’s funny. I always remember when ever I went with my wife I always ended up carrying more than when I went solo.

We bring a tiny bit more... but there's still only one canoe and one tent, so the load per person goes down dramatically. It's about 90-100lbs total when I'm solo (with all gear, food, boat, etc.) and only 20-30lbs more when she comes. So the load goes from >70% bodyweight, to <50%. And this year I'll probably have an extra 10-15lbs in camera gear as well.
 

Trip Planning » Talk to me about Unicorn Hill » Yesterday 7:31 pm

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Thanks for the feedback everyone. Seems like I should suck it up and just do it and enjoy the week in that area.


AlgonquinLakes wrote:

I double carried it a couple years back. It ate up time, but honestly the worst part was the bugs. I’d say it’s worth it. You could come out along the Nip if you really didn’t want to repeat it at the end.

I'd most likely be going in mid-September so hopefully bugs won't still be hanging around.

Did you go south from Catfish to Hogan? Are those portages marked on the old Jeff's Maps "very buggy" like it says?




dcmcelroy wrote:

If you want a real hill, try the portage from St. Andrews Lake to Tarn Lake.  Nearly 5 km long, with climb of more than a hundred metres, and down almost the same, for a net gain in elevation of less than 30 metres.  

Reminds me of the 2km from Grace to Carmichael that I did last summer in Killarney PP. Goes from 251m (Grace) to 267m (Carmichael) with a peak of 339m... so 88 up then 72 down, over the course of 2km. It was so gradual though that I really didn't find it bad at all. I was with my girlfriend so thankfully didn't need to double carry
 

Where In Algonquin? » WIA 378 » Yesterday 6:31 pm

deeptrout wrote:

Sunday

It's only Friday.

(but no sorry, not Sunday Lake).

Trip Planning » Talk to me about Unicorn Hill » Yesterday 3:36 pm

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One hill six times lol. I usually curse at myself when I choose portages >1.5km while solo double-carrying.

I don't mind windy paddling too much, but I'd cross Cedar at probably 6-7am on Day 1, so I'd have to be pretty unlucky to get waves at that time, it would just be the last day that I'd be crossing in the late afternoon. Worst case if it's not passable I can take shelter at one of the campsites nearby.

Is it just 1 small section of the portage that gives the bad reputation, or is the whole 2.3km nasty?

Curious if it's like the 3km from Manitou into Three Mile, where the first 100m or so is straight uphill but then otherwise really flat and easy.

Or if the whole thing is just rolling hills.
 

Trip Planning » Talk to me about Unicorn Hill » Yesterday 2:16 pm

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I've never started a trip from Cedar but I've been eyeing the Cedar > Catfish > Hogan > La Muir > Burntroot > Catfish > Cedar loop for a while. I've camped on Burntroot and I really love that lake, but I've never been on the other lakes.

The only thing stopping me is Unicorn Hill. I double carry so not only is 2.3km a massive portage when I need to double back, but it's infamous for being difficult as well. And I would need to do it on my way in, and my way out, so walking it 6 times total, 4 with gear.

I'd probably spend 7-10 days total... first and last night on Catfish, and the other 4-7 nights between Hogan / La Muir / Burntroot.

Am I crazy for considering double-carrying Unicorn Hill twice in one trip? Catfish to Hogan probably won't be a walk in the park either with double carries (well I guess literally it would be).

Trip Planning » Best Sites for Swimming » Yesterday 10:19 am

jkurylo wrote:

Good suggestion, thank-you! I was thinking of doing a loop around Smoke Lake through Bonnechere, and spending some time at Head Lake. The map shows some water falls which could be nice 

The falls on Head Lake tend to be pretty dry during the summer, but if you're already on the lake it will still be worth checking out.

Bonnechere is a pretty lake with great campsites, but only a few are ideal for swimming/sunbathing, so in mid-August it will be busy and you'll be rolling the dice.

A different option you can consider would be Rock > Pen or Clydegale > Welcome > Louisa > back to Rock

It's 3 nights but you can take rest days if you're planning a longer trip.

Pen has plenty of nice sites, a lot of which offer good swimming. Clydegale is my preference though, there's great swimming and sunbathing on the two northern sites, and the southern island has a beach landing. Welcome has a handful of large beach sites so obviously good for swimming and sunbathing there. And Louisa has a lot of campsites with rocky points that also offer the same swimming/sunbathing opportunities.

I have tons of pictures and campsite reports for all of the lakes in the area (your original idea Smoke to Head and the route I suggested). Feel free to take a look algonquinbeyond.com

Where In Algonquin? » WIA 377 » 6/03/2020 7:36 pm

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Top of Harness looking south

Trip Planning » Reasonable for Rookie Trip Sept 5-12? » 6/03/2020 7:33 pm

Early September seems to get busier each year, not even factoring in the cabin fever of 2020. So I'd anticipate it will be pretty swamped if you're near the hwy / access point. A bit deeper in and it should be a lot quieter.

It will be also be quieter if you go right before or right after the long weekend. But then again every day is a long weekend when millions are unemployed... so it really depends on how many people are working. School closures will play a big part as well. So it's kind of still too early to tell.

But later in September when it starts getting colder outside, it will for sure be quieter in the park

Myself along with the others here can help you plan a route if you'd like... just give us a starting point:

- How many nights/days?
- How difficult do you want the trip to be?
- How long do you want to spend travelling each day? 
- Single carry or double carry portages?
- Plan to move camp each night? If not, how many rest days?
- What are your trip priorities? Solitude? Nice campsites? Fishing? Park history? etc.

Trip Planning » Rain Lake To Canoe Lake » 6/02/2020 4:31 pm

Ron S wrote:

Ahh yeah i guess we could start from access 3.  Didn't really think of that.  

Cheers,

Ron

If that's an option, my vote would be Misty > McIntosh > White Trout (or Big Trout) > Sunbeam

Grassy Bay is a lovely paddle and would be worth adding to the trip. White Trout and Big Trout are great lakes as well.

I did that route last September but circled back to Mag instead of going south to Canoe.

Trip Planning » Rain Lake To Canoe Lake » 6/02/2020 11:55 am

Do you want more solitude at the cost of travelling through unmaintained portages and campsites? Or would you rather travel through maintained areas and likely get nicer campsites, knowing that you'll see more people along the way?

I'd prefer the latter and to me the obvious route is to do something like Jubilee > Misty > McIntosh > Tom Thomson. Or if you've never been to Sunbeam it's a very pretty lake, so you can go around through McIntosh Marsh / Grassy Bay and down to Sunbeam, then out of Sunbeam through Vanishing Pond.

edit: if you do decide to go the maintained route with something similar to my recommendation above, you can also consider starting from Magnetawan to get to Misty through the Petawawa with less portaging.

Trip Planning » June 1 opening » 5/30/2020 8:33 am

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An important piece of info:

For back country camping reservations at Algonquin and The Massasauga, in-person check in will not be required for arrivals. Backcountry campers reserving online will be e-mailed their confirmation letter, and the confirmation letter will serve as their backcountry camping permit. Campers are responsible for ensuring they have an electronic or printed permit when using the backcountry.

Trip Planning » June 1 opening » 5/28/2020 6:31 pm

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Someone just posted on Reddit that their early June trip just got cancelled and things are closed until at least June 12th.

 

Trip Planning » Ontario Parks Closed until June » 5/23/2020 8:04 am

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scoutergriz wrote:

trippythings wrote:

solos wrote:

...from what I’ve been seeing in the local neighborhoods is that social distancing is no longer being practiced... / ...causes a massive second wave that will lock down everything again

So what are the chances we can be in and out of the second lockdown in time for some September/October camping?
 

from what I saw yesterday don't bet on it! Some people were acting like it was party time! not distancing, not wearing masks, not obeying directions in the store, and standing yakking in bunches. Meanwhile the numbers are already starting to rise again.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I don't have much faith in ithttps://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cry.png


 

Did you see this? https://www.blogto.com/city/2020/05/ctv-apologizes-footage-man-kissing-stranger-trinity-bellwoods-viral/

People are really taking things seriously...

Trip Planning » Ontario Parks Closed until June » 5/22/2020 10:51 pm

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solos wrote:

...from what I’ve been seeing in the local neighborhoods is that social distancing is no longer being practiced... / ...causes a massive second wave that will lock down everything again

So what are the chances we can be in and out of the second lockdown in time for some September/October camping?
 

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