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Equipment » Chainsaw? » 9/21/2018 8:16 am

RobW
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I'll 2nd Gord's recommendation of a pruning blade. It makes a huge difference. I'll also note that LI battery performance degrades considerably as temperatures drop. They are pretty good up around freezing, but pretty much useless by the time you're down around -16C. 

Equipment » Chainsaw? » 9/20/2018 9:24 am

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That rule had come up in some conversation last winter, which was the first time I'd heard about it. 

I'm fairly lazy in the winter and spend time at the cottage rather than winter camping. We do cut a fair bit of wood for the cottage. I've got 2 saws that we use. Both are Stihl's and if I was picking one for a winter camping trip I'd go with the smaller one. The current equivalent would be the MS 170.

https://en.stihl.ca/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws-and-pole-pruners/Gas-chain-saws-for-property-maintenance/2212-110/MS-170.aspx

The smallest saw out there should be plenty big enough for what you would be cutting for winter camping and you definitely want to keep the size and weight down. I would also recommend sticking to a gas saw as current battery technology doesn't hold up well in cold temps. 
 

Equipment » Personal Care Items, Hang With Food? » 9/17/2018 8:24 am

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Clothes are in the tent with us. I doubt that I would ever actually put the clothes anywhere else. Other loose items that get tucked away are things like chairs (yes we often carry chairs, especially in the early spring), tackle boxes, kitchen pack, etc. 

No we have never had  a situation where we had to defend our food. In fact I have never seen a bear while canoe tripping in Algonquin. We saw 10 in 3 days on a Killarney trip, including one about 40' in front of me on a portage trail. I politely said "Hello" but he was kind of pissed off about all the people yelling at him and banging stuff so he just swore at me and took off into the bush. The closest I've ever had a bear to a campsite was car camping as a kid in the Rockies back in the 70's and 80's when the grizzlies would wander through the campgrounds. 

This summer we did a trip in the NWT. We saw bear tracks every day - grizzlies higher up in the mountains then black bears as we got lower - but didn't see a single bear in 10 days on the river. Some of those tracks were at places we camped. 

The loudest, biggest, scariest critter we have had on our campsite at night - the one that made me get out of the tent and look - was a snowshoe hare on Booth Lake. The critters that we had the hardest trouble keeping out of the food was a chipmunk or 2 on the French River. 
 

Equipment » Family of 4....what's your canoe/paddling set up? » 9/06/2018 12:22 pm

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That's an awkward age spread with the kids. A 9 year old is capable of being a useful 2nd paddler when needed. Not a full time, all day long paddler, but a 'hey I need your help now' as you round a corner into a headwind or other specific times. A 3 year old is should have their own paddle but won't be able to meaningfully help move the canoe. 

When we started family trips, the first trip we did was only 3 days and did that with 2 adults, 3 kids and a dog in our 17' 6" Swift Temagami which is a big boat. We had to leave the Thermarests behind to make it work.

The next year we took 2 canoes with the 2nd canoe being a 14' one we borrowed from the in-laws. I paddled the Temagami with our 6 and 8 year olds while my wife paddled the 14' canoe with our 10 year old. Actually the 6 year old might have paddled with my wife on the way out, but still in the small canoe. that was another 3 day trip. 

The year after we took the Temagami and our 16' cedarstrip Prospector with the same paddler configuration. That was a 5 day trip on Lake Temagami that was originally planned to be 5 days for the Obabika loop but got adjusted when the reality of how fast we could travel with the kids at that age sank in after the first full day of paddling. 

Something you could consider as an interim option is renting a 2nd canoe - either a small tandem or a solo - for next year, rather than committing to buying a 2nd canoe now. 
 

Where Is This? » WIT? #276 » 8/10/2018 1:40 pm

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I’ll be away for over a week so someone else can jump in.

I should have done cool pictures when I get back but they won’t be from Algonquin.

Where Is This? » WIT? #276 » 8/09/2018 10:53 am

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Mink frI’m the portage from (I think) Silver Birch.

Where Is This? » WIT #274 » 8/01/2018 11:25 am

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Mangotasi?

Trip Planning » Moose sighting Opportunities » 7/30/2018 12:39 pm

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[edit] Hailstorm  [/edit] Creek off Opeongo is supposed to have the highest density of moose anywhere in the world. 

Trip Planning » Input and advice for a short canoe-trip (1 night backcountry) » 7/30/2018 9:23 am

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A good option for one night that will definitely feel like back country is the Shall Lake Access Point and camping on Crotch Lake. No portages required, nice sites along with the south east shore of Crotch that are good for swimming and you can spend a day paddling around Crotch & Shall Lakes. If you want to explore further on the 2nd day you can paddle up through Farm. Overall it keeps you close to the access point, won't have the crowds you would get on Canoe, Smoke, etc. and are smaller lakes which means wind is generally less of an issue. 
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Trip Planning » Moose sighting Opportunities » 7/27/2018 3:58 pm

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I haven't been in to Sec. I've thought about heading there but haven't made it yet. 

Trip Planning » Moose sighting Opportunities » 7/27/2018 8:16 am

RobW
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Yeah we saw one at the upstream end of Whitson our first night there. I can't really say if you're any more or less likely to find a moose there relative to anywhere else in the park but they are around. 
 

Trip Planning » September Youth Trip » 7/26/2018 12:01 pm

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My first recommendation is to avoid lakes that predominantly run east-west as they tend to be the most exposed to wind. Lakes that predominantly run north-south tend to have less headwinds to deal with. 

For a 3 day trip I would suggest a base camp for 2 nights. Day 1 paddle in, day 2 explore/day trip, and day 3 paddle out the same way you went in. That increases confidence for the newbies who now have an idea of where they are going and what to expect. It also saves time on the setting up and tearing down and your day trip on day 2 can be more relaxed knowing camp is already set up whenever you get back. 

A few routes I would consider:

1) Canoe to Joe with a stop at the totem pole, camp on Joe, day trip up to Tom Thomson and depending on energy levels portage from Little Doe to Baby Joe to make a loop out of it. 

2) Rock to Pen with a day trip to Clydegale. Not nearly as busy but still well traveled and readily done by novices with a single portage. 

3) Shall Lake access point tripping Crotch to Shirley. It feels like a more remote access point, long gravel road in with no campground to start you off. Still just one portage but a bit longer than the others. 

Trip Planning » How are the bugs!? » 7/26/2018 11:50 am

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Thanks for finding that section Fred. I had missed it, possibly because most of the detailed restrictions are in the regulations rather than the Act itself. 

Trip Planning » How are the bugs!? » 7/25/2018 10:27 am

RobW
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Mosquito coils, candles and cigarettes (and other tobacco products) are not specifically called out in the detailed regulations under the Forest Fires Prevention Act. This link is a good starting point and includes links to both the Forest Fires Prevention Act and the Ontario Regulation 207/96 (Outdoor Fires) which are established under the Act. 

https://www.ontario.ca/page/outdoor-fire-restrictions\

That leaves you in a bit of a gray area when it comes to using any of those. Personally I would choose not to. 

Ethics » Doug Ford's "clean up our parks" promise » 7/23/2018 12:11 pm

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Rory - Thank you again for your rich insights. 

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